Anyone have a copy of the DSLR list of HighSplit locations and phasing?

zapman987 · 2025-01-31T16:56:32+00:00

Anyone have a copy of the DSLR (or otherwise) list of HighSplit locations and phasing? Bonus if it also has the status's of each.

smccloud

MacLeech Yeah, but I have a feeling Spectrum will want to make Cox customers “feel welcome,” so it will prioritize those people. The fact that they removed any way to track what areas are being updated from their official community post makes this easier to believe.

MacLeech

smccloud I have a feeling Spectrum will want to make Cox customers “feel welcome,” so it will prioritize those people.

They can make Cox customers “feel welcome” by converting to Spectrum packages and pricing with access to their streaming video portfolio. Spectrum tends to be lower priced than Cox with better streaming options.

Changing packages and pricing is a relatively easy change that can be done early on that visibility affects customers, which is why it’s one of the first things done historically after telecom companies merge.

xpxp2002

MacLeech I’m aware that Cox was doing their own upgrades, but I question how they plan to “accelerate” it so quickly after close.

That implies to me that Cox is either intentionally working through the upgrades now with their own resources slower than they could be, or that Charter is going to provide additional labor to augment Cox’s.

I suppose they could start to quickly hire after close, but training wouldn’t happen overnight and companies merging typically look to eliminate redundancies rather than add more.

I’m not doubting you. I just wonder how they intend to do it.

MacLeech

xpxp2002 Depends on what is needed.

For example, there are alot of Cox properties in close proximity to Spectrum. Techs for each company drive by the other every day. It’s relatively easy to redistribute labor between them, both in-house and contracted.
https://ir.charter.com/static-files/17f74638-d569-448c-be88-76d00f9c6fff

Labor wasn’t the issue slowing down upgrades previously, it was equipment availability which seems to be mostly resolved now.

The redundancy eliminations are often in upper management and executives early in the merger. Later on it’s call centers and retail centers too close to each other. In-house techs with hands on the equipment are rarily laid off in cable mergers. Contractors (which every cable provider uses) are moved around as usual to where they are needed.

Smith6612

MacLeech Hopefully making Cox customers feel welcome to the Spectrum community means ditching those data caps as well. Pretty sure Cox still has them!

Not_Sure

smccloud what’s that got to do with my post?

cork1958

xpxp2002 Make that 3 of us

MacLeech

cork1958 Visibly my neighborhood hasn’t seen upgrades either (so count me as 4??), but I know through contact with old co-workers that now work in the area, hub upgrades are close to done and field upgrades should be starting soon. It’s all supposed to be done around me in less than 6 months. Cities close by have finished recently which haven’t been posted on the Spectrum community list at all or just on the last public list that disappeared.

It’s a slow ramp up with little visible progress, then it’s done quick.

btlman1980

https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/charter-s-hfc-upgrade-will-be-half-done-by-year-end-ceo-says

Charter has completed the first phase of the upgrade, which covers 15% of the HFC footprint and includes an upgrade to 1.2GHz of capacity with an upstream-enhancing “high-split” on traditional integrated cable modem termination systems (CMTSs). The second phase, covering 50% of the HFC footprint, will include a 1.2GHz upgrade with a distributed access architecture (DAA) and a virtual CMTS. The remaining 35% of the footprint will be upgraded to DOCSIS 4.0, including a move to 1.8GHz. All three put Charter in position to offer multi-gigabit downstream speeds and at least 1-Gig in the upstream.

fmd

btlman1980 and at least 1-Gig in the upstream.

They talked about a 396 MHz ultra-high split a few years ago, which allows that.

It will be interesting, if they will go for “Unified FDX” in some markets. Charter was very interested in getting 204 MHz as legacy return into the FDX specs, just in case.

MacLeech

fmd They talked about a 396 MHz ultra-high split a few years ago, which allows that.

They’re offering 1×1gb and 2×1gb with 204MHz high-split already
https://www.spectrum.com/resources/internet-wifi/2-gig-internet-benefits

fmd

MacLeech Oh, I meant the “at least” part. They can offer more than 1 Gbps with ultra-high 🙂

Motorola870

fmd The investor presentation in 2022 only mentioned 1Gbps upload over coax in all 3 phased areas with a 5-204MHz return path. Now the question I have will the Cox markets only get high-split or will they go for ultra-high split there.

MacLeech

Motorola870 Cox was planning on ESD DOCSIS 4.0 like Charter. Currently most of their footprint is mid-split 5-85Mhz. They had tested high-split previously.

zapman987

I will say around the Raleigh metro area, Ive seen several new nodes/splits and a whole bunch of node swaps, past few months. Ive not seen any amp work yet though.

I will say if they dont finish NC, they are done for in the state. Brightspeed is rolling out brownfield fiber. Its slow but steady rollout statewide from what Ive read/heard/seen. Cities already have competition from ATT and Google for fiber (though google may not be around much longer, just announced they are being sold).

smccloud

Smith6612 Yes, not bringing them to everyone in the Spectrum area.

Motorola870

Smith6612 Also hopefully increasing the speeds on the mid-split area tiers higher while they work on high-split. I could see their 100Mbps upload become 250Mbps along with ending caps.

skriefal

It does seem a bit distanced from personal relevance when many Spectrum customers are still stuck with 35 Mbps upstream speeds. With no real indication of when that will change, other than maybe in the next 3 years. I’ll still manage some satisfaction that others are seeing improvements.

Motorola870

skriefal They are on track to have 50% of the systems upgraded by end of 2026. Right now about 15% of the systems have speeds up to 2Gbps down and 1Gbps upload. The remaining 50% of legacy Charter systems minus the Cox areas should be complete by end of 2027/early 2028.

Not_Sure

Motorola870 I’m sorry but it’s taken them 4 years to get the first 15% but supposedly in one year they’ll get another 35% an in another year after that the remaining 50%? The math aint mathing. What’s the special magic that will get things done 9X faster in 2026 and 13x faster in 2027?

MacLeech

Not_Sure Much of the delay was in field equipment deliveries and early equipment bugs that needed sorting.

Motorola870

Not_Sure Phase 1 was completed mid 2025. They started phase 2 in mid 2025 so they should be getting close to activating phase 2 areas. It took 3 years to get phase 1 completed.

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