Beef Tallow trend?

real_aurgathor

Heat84 what about going back to making soda with sugar instead of corn syrup?

HFCS is significantly cheaper than sugar, so it’s a fat chance that it will replace HFCS in inexpensive sodas.

However, some premium sodas are still made with sugar, but they often cost more.

real_aurgathor

Personally, I think both taste and unhealthiness are overrated and exaggerated, meaning that the taste difference is not that much, and the unhealthiness is compounded by sedentary lifestyle and overall overconsumption.

A long time ago I used to cook with lard, but oil is much easier to dispense, plus lard is harder to find. I have never seen beef tallow in a store, but I never looked for it, so that doesn’t necessarily mean that much, although searching Fred Meyer produced 0 hits.

However, they do have lard as per: https://www.fredmeyer.com/p/john-morrell-snow-cap-edible-lard/0007010007062?fulfillment=PICKUP&searchType=default_search

HooRU

I use Manteca (animal fat/pork fat) to make tamales, it’s a necessary ingredient and I don’t think cooking oil would work for that. But I only make Tamelas once or twice a year, if that often.

My family is all about Michael Pollan. I read one of the books from pressure. While he sounds reasonable, it’s not science. When I see what they spend on food all while chain smoking I shake my head. You can’t feed the world on organic froo-froo foods. At least not yet.

broknsymetry

I hear duck fat is best - healthier than beef or pork fat and great for cooking.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-duck-fat-healthy#nutrition

real_aurgathor

broknsymetry

But duck fat is kinda expensive for many use. Since my family used to have a good sized farm with many animals, including ducks and geese, we used to have some duck and geese fat, but not much after my grandmother had passed away. One way we consumed it is by putting on bread with some salt and bell peppers, occasionally cold cuts, slices of tomato, onion, pickles, etc.

HardlyWorthit

Somewhat-Reticent HardlyWorthit liver & onions

But only if cooked in bacon fat.

HooRU

I do use a lot of olive oil and Canola. I don’t have the budget for some of the other “good” oils. One problem with many of the good oils is they are not neutral.

Does anyone have strong evidence against glyphosate in food?

telcodad

HooRU Does anyone have strong evidence against glyphosate in food?

Glyphosate in Food: How Dangerous is it?
https://www.news-medical.net/health/Glyphosate-in-Food-How-Dangerous-is-it.aspx

Although previous regulatory assessments on glyphosate found that this herbicide exhibits a low toxicity in humans, a recent study published by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) found that glyphosate and its formulated products are potentially carcinogenic to human beings. Since this announcement, there has been a great deal of scientific debate surrounding the potential carcinogenicity of glyphosate.

real_aurgathor

Looking at results from google AI, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) found it to be “probably carcinogenic to humans” while several other agencies found it to be “not likely to be carcinogenic to humans”.

There is no smoking gun or ironclad evidence, and since many other things can cause cancer, I will go with the “not likely to be carcinogenic to humans”. You probably don’t want to flavor your tea with it, but whatever little may be left in food is highly unlikely to be an issue.

urbanriot

Dks01

Beef tallow is not good for human health.

… but it’s better than what was in use before. That blog link you posted is focused on one issue, saturated fats, and it’s anecdotal at best as it refers to “nutrition experts quoted” in an article on an entirely different site, so it’s not even a scientific opinion.

The issue people have more than anything else is the long list of chemicals used in frying which may or may not be linked to cancer, PFAs, etc.. A lot of people are under the ignorant assumption that restaurants are using a singular ingredient called “oil” to fry their foods without realizing those oils have a long list of chemicals within them, some of which are extremely questionable.

egeezer

Dks01
I like using grapeseed oil for stir fry. It has a higher smoking temp than olive or vegetable oil.

HooRU

urbanriot Ok, what chemicals, is it documented? I worked in restaurants and it just said oil

urbanriot

HooRU

Ok, what chemicals, is it documented? I worked in restaurants and it just said oil

Exactly, that’s my point. They have anti-foaming agents, flavorings, preservatives, etc., and it’s a mix of oils as well. And no, it’s not documented because companies do not want their secret recipes to get out. The best you can find it that McDonalds removed Dimethylpolysiloxane in 2016 but I don’t know what they replaced it with.

HooRU

ok, so we can’t prove what they are putting in? But you can prove that using Tallow won’t include the same or other ingredients?

Somewhat-Reticent

Whatever is used, filtering it and using it over and over is sub-optimal.

urbanriot

HooRU

But you can prove that using Tallow won’t include the same or other ingredients?

Sure, if they tell us. Like Steak ’n Shake with this post stating they’re using 100% beef tallow with “No preservatives, no chemicals, no additives”

As for ‘proving it’, this Reddit thread had some interesting insight re: Outback Steakhouse:

Another trick to detect a tallow blend: Pure tallow should be about 1mg cholesterol per gram of total fat give or take. So if something has 10g of total fat it should have _10mg cholesterol if it is pure tallow. If cholesterol is lower than it should be, they may be using a blend because any vegetable fat will displace the cholesterol-containing tallow.

Typical blend ratios I’ve come across have been 30% and 50% vegetable fats in the tallow. The SFA alone can’t always tell you this if the vegetable fat has been hydrogenated.

Following that allergen link in that thread, it seems Outback also uses soybean oil or a blend of oils so it won’t always be so cut and dry. I believe some places are using beef tallow more for flavor than health.

HooRU

Beef Tallow is not for health. That is my objection.

Astyanax

This is tantamount to an alcoholic switching from whiskey to vodka because it’s “better for him”.

Dks01

urbanriot Believe what you wish. I will take the medical advice I choose. My point is that there is a difference of opinion. My own GP has advised avoidance of saturated fats. Your “experts” may advise otherwise.

Dks01

egeezer The professional advice I received from a chef was “Use grapeseed oil.”

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