Crash at Pearson

Dks01 · 2025-02-17T20:27:42+00:00

From CBC Toronto's Pearson airport is responding to an emergency involving a plane arriving from Minneapolis Monday afternoon, the airport said in a post to X just before 3 p.m. Emergency teams are responding to the incident involving a Delta Airlines plane, the airport said. All passengers and crew are accounted for, the post said. Peel Region paramedics say they are on the scene. They say they are dealing with eight patients involved in the emergency, but don't yet know the extent of their injuries. More to come... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-pearson-overturned-airplane-1.7461227

Dks01

styvas El Al passengers have been clapping on landing (and takeoff) for decades. And for far, far better reasons. https://aish.com/48893372/

GreenEnvy22

ThirdShifter

Why would AI not have attempted that landing? The conditions were well within the published limits from everything we've seen.

And what magic ball do you have that tells you or was pilot error at all?

It's quite possible for sure, but the TSB hasn't released any info yet so we're all just guessing.

If there was a sudden unexpected downdraft just as the plane was about to flare, would you consider that pilot error?

Rook

ThirdShifter AI can solve this.

ThirdShifter AI is our future.

Sounds like something an AI would say. 🤨

(Welcome to the site.)

px_eliezer_

ThirdShifter AI is our future.

Serious question: Are you one?

markuswarren

px_eliezer_ YIkes, do we have AI trolls now? 😃

ThirdShifter

px_eliezer_ Serious question: Are you one?

Not a serious question.

I merely see the future for what it is.

Bink63

styvas

There's applause every time my flights (as a passenger) to Honolulu land there.

MichelR

Bink63 I've only flown commercial once (Montreal to Paris, Air Transat) and I found the applauding very odd.

urbanriot

Bink63

There's applause every time my flights (as a passenger) to Honolulu land there.

That's funny, I'm curious who's doing the clapping. Maybe just vacation people?

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Flying into China you definitely won't hear clapping. Same as the Middle East, no clappers there. I've never heard clapping going into a Scandinavian country.

I find some American, European, and Canadian cities have the occasional clapper but definitely not as a whole.

Bink63

urbanriot That's funny, I'm curious who's doing the clapping. Maybe just vacation people?

Well, given the State of Hawaii only has around 1.46 Million residents, most travelers there are touristas...

and the arrival announcement is always something along the lines of "welcome to paradise".

Never heard any applause after landing in chitcago or any other mainland locale.

ETA: asked a trusted source who states that similar announcements are given on U.S. Military flight missions landing in Hawaii and that applause is common when any flight mission lands anywhere on Planet Earth.

Thane_Bitter

ThirdShifter AI is remarkably unintelligent, its good at finding long term patterns in data, often with subtitles well beyond our limited sensory input, but there is no thought, no rational mover trying to understand whatever its looking at. Fundamentally has no real intelligence or reasoning capabilities... so far.

MichelR

Thane_Bitter I've only used it to create regular expressions so far. And I'm not even bothering signing up for anything, I just use CoPilot in MS Edge.

ElQuintron

I'm attempting to accommodate the AI discussion with its own thread, please keep AI out of here, and everything related to Pearson and tangentially related aviation stuff here.

Bink63

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Bink63

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Heat84

ThirdShifter True AI would not have attempted that landing. It was human error. It was pilot error.

1 one 2 experts said it should've been an easy landing despite the conditions, and nobody else had problems landing there that day.

px_eliezer_

Heat84

You never know where or when a freak gust of wind can come in.

I was driving on an overpass the other day and a huge gust of wind suddenly came out perpendicular to my driving direction, it almost crashed my car into the side wall of the overpass.

I would think that anybody in aviation knows (or should know) that something weird will happen to them, sooner or later, even if not so dramatic.

InternetJeff

Heat84
1 one 2 experts said it should've been an easy landing despite the conditions, and nobody else had problems landing there that day

No to detract from your general point, but the "1 of 2 experts said" part is not reassuring 😁.

Better is something equivalent to "9 out of 10 dentists recommend sugarless gum" 😁 😁.

Avernar

InternetJeff Better is something equivalent to "9 out of 10 dentists recommend sugarless gum" 😁 😁.

Heat84

InternetJeff That was a typo. I meant to say 1 or 2.

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