The general EV Discussion Thread

Hydraglass · 2025-01-20T13:28:51+00:00

Hey all - I think I was probably one of the most prolific posters in the old EV thread - not sure if/when AR might find his way back over to us all here, as he owned the original thread, but I'm more than happy to fire up a new thread here for general discussion. As a good way to kick it off I thought I'd give an update for myself - I've now had my PHEV for 3 years as of the end of this month (Volvo XC 60 Recharge) - I have put on it a total of 124,000km in the past 3 years, including 2 road trips to Florida, 2 road trips to PEI, several trips around various parts of Ontario, many dozens of trips to our family cottage up in Bancroft, and my daily commute. I have averaged (I keep a spreadsheet for my own curiosity) fuel usage of 6.2L/100km and out of every 1000km I drive, roughly 150km are EV mode. (That would make my "not EV mode, just mild hybrid mode" fuel usage about 7.3L/100 - still relatively impressive for a mid size SUV.) The rated fuel economy for the non-hybrid version of the XC60 is 8.5L/100. That would mean I've saved about 2.3L/100km - so a total of 2,852L so far - at an average of $1.50/L is $4300. The purchase price premium for PHEV over the non PHEV was $4000 - so I'm already ahead. I've had the vehicle in for one under-warranty repair - the water pump (which is electric) had an electrical short in the motor which prevented the vehicle from operating (on start up it would report "cooling electrical system fault - shutting vehicle down to prevent overheating") - I used the "on call" button in the car, a tow truck came and got the car, took it to the dealer, the dealer brought a loaner car to my house for the 4 days it was in the shop, and I went back and picked it up the following week at no cost to me. That was at around 95,000km. I have an extended warranty to 200,000km. Am I still considering a pure EV for my next vehicle - yes - when - probably 2027 when my car is around 5 years old. What am I in the market for? Will have to see what the market brings, it's a fast moving industry - currently the Polestar 3, the Chevy Blazer EV, Mustang Mach E, and the Mercedes EQE are at the top of my list - but also curious about the new Silverado EV, the Rivian R1T, and a few others.

Hydraglass

WalterDnes Huh it’s almost like $5/gallon gasoline and Musk shutting up his yap and getting out of the government and the ending of the whole doge thing improved things at Tesla… Weird eh?

InternetJeff

Hydraglass

Correlation does not imply causation.

real_aurgathor

InternetJeff Correlation does not imply causation.

Are you trying to argue that high high gasoline prices may have nothing to do with increased EV sales?

InternetJeff

real_aurgathor Are you trying to argue that high high gasoline prices may have nothing to do with increased EV sales?

I am “arguing” nothing.

taraf

He’s probably arguing that Musk’s public image is unrelated. Which is definitely not true.

Overall EV sales are up by a much more significant number: there’s a whole lot of BEV models on the market today that weren’t 2 years ago.

InternetJeff

taraf He’s probably arguing that Musk’s public image is unrelated. Which is definitely not true.

You’re right, it is definitely not true that I am arguing that.

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