Bird Flu

HooRU · 2025-02-09T22:34:27+00:00

CDC Info on Bird Flu: https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html I hope this doesn't mutate into another Covid. I think, despite not being a danger at this time, I may commence masking again. My PCP thinks I should because of my poor health. It would be crazy if we've entered into a new era in human history where diseases kill us off. It would be crazy especially because over population is peaking out, even in third world countries, people, besides Musk, are having fewer babies and using more birth control, a good thing. Here in the USA we are having less babies, in China less babies also. Also Japan this is true. It hurts economies because is better, over all, for our lot as a race. My parents had too many kids, I roll my eyes when I see huge families. Some people think that is the thing to do, but the thing to do is make the world better for those already here. What's his name, the actor that had the gun that killed while making a western: He has too many babies, it's gross. If we don't take control, we will still kill ourselves off.

real_aurgathor

px_eliezer_

There was at least one recall because of the raw milk had bird flu in it.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR24-044.aspx

I'm not sure how many of you had raw milk -- my grandparents had some cows and I can state that raw milk does taste better, though some may find its taste a bit strange, I've had lukewarm milk that was still in the cow a few minutes before I've had it.

However, given the possibility of ingesting bird flu that way, I think I can skip on it for the time being.
And I'm not sure if it's any healthier than pasteurized milk. I do know that they usually spoil differently.

px_eliezer_ likewise I no longer even show my dismay when parents won't even vaccinate their kids against clear-cut basics such as diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio...

I think you should talk to them, but it's your call.

px_eliezer_

real_aurgathor I think you should talk to them, but it's your call.

In the old days, yes, but everything is so polarized now.

As well, I'm mostly in a specialty rather than full primary-care.

I leave it to the primary-care folks, but a lot of them have surrendered anyway.

HFB1217

GrumpyCanadian

Flagging Dismissal
"HHS chief" in this case is used as his name and the topic shows his potential health actions for the good or the bad and not his politics for it

Shadow01

real_aurgathor

You showed no study to support your statement. I call rubbish.

real_aurgathor

Shadow01

Denier grade BS-ing.

For one, no one asked me for evidence yet.

For two here is one: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2771114 (and it was already posted some years ago in one of the COVID thread)

A report by Payne et al on the April 2020 outbreak described a voluntary convenience sample of 382 Theodore Roosevelt crew members that included persons who were previously infected, currently infected, or never infected. Sixty percent had reactive antibodies and one-fifth of infected participants reported no symptoms. Face coverings (53.8% vs 67.5%) and social distancing (54.7% vs 70.0%) decreased the infection rate but did not halt spread in the closely confined spaces with a crew engaged in the high paced operations of an aircraft carrier at sea. In their sample of 382 service members completing questionnaires, 267 (70%) provided a nasal pharyngeal swab for polymerase chain reaction testing. Of the 382 participants, 284 (74%) had symptoms; ageusia and anosmia were most strongly associated with previous or current infection, followed by fever, chills, and myalgias. The investigations by Payne et al and Alvarado et al were designed and led by different US Department of Defense organizations (US Army vs US Navy, respectively), so the potential exists that some crew members were sampled by both groups of investigators.

egeezer

real_aurgathor So far you presented no evidence that would make those studies incorrect and outdated.

It's not possible to provide 'evidence' that doesn't exist.

real_aurgathor

egeezer

I'm willing to give give a few days worth of benefit of doubt even to well known, certified deniers since I obviously cannot know each and every relevant study on a given subject. However, as per my experience, I don't usually get acceptable evidence after I ask for some.

Astyanax

real_aurgathor

Don't forget the best of them all: Lockdowns!

To reduce the risk of introducing COVID-19 into US military operational units, premovement sequester (similar to a quarantine although individuals have not been exposed to COVID-19) with individual 14-day restriction of movement is used.

Kathy_9

Going from Bird Flu to COVID to disagreement, this topic has run it's course.

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